Lead With Soul

The great news is, because your body is your resonance chamber for your soul, it's the body is the physical part, your soul is the energetic part, so you are that combination between the soul and the body, right? So there's never a full disconnection. Welcome to the Thrive Her podcast. I'm your host, Amy Sanders.

I'm a fitness and wellness pro, mom, stepmom, second wife, and master certified life coach. I'm here to help you manage your mind so you can uncover the most potent version of yourself and create the thriving life you love. Hello, hello, everyone. Welcome back to the Thrive Her podcast.

I am your host, Amy Sanders, and I have a guest with me today. Her name's Jules Herr, and we are talking more. We're going to talk a lot about soul today. We're going to dive a little bit deeper, and I want to introduce her.

When we met, I don't even know how I met. You met through one of my assistants or something, right? And then we book a call, and it totally took a completely different direction to where we're like, wait, we're like soul sisters, and I'm feeling like you need to be on my podcast. So that's essentially what happened.

But Jules has an amazing story, and she's doing a lot of incredible things. She's doing incredible work, which is healing just people all over. So I want you to tell us a little bit about where you were and then what you're doing now. She's also a mom.

She's also an entrepreneur. She's similar to me in those ways, as well as like her mission, which is super powerful. So welcome to the podcast. Let's hear a little bit more about where you were and where you're headed.

Amazing. Thank you so much for having me, Amy. And hello to everyone who is happily listening to this podcast. Loves, obviously, you're all beloved followers of me, so I'm happy to be here talking with all of you.

My name is Jules Hare, as Amy said, and my great love is helping people to step into what they're truly capable of. And so in my reality, because we love to assign titles to things, and that's how our brain puts things into categories, I am a registered massage therapist by trade. I've been doing that for over 20 years. I started doing...

I started doing cranial sacral therapy when I was about 10 years old, which is a hands-on, but can also be virtual energy work, connects right from the heart all the way down to the spinal cord. And then knowing, the trusting, the movement of the cerebrospinal fluid up and down through that spinal cord, and recognizing that you can notice where it's not moving, and just by focusing your attention and energy on it, that creates the biggest shift. And so as we... As we step into the world that is more embracing the quantum reality of things, it makes perfect sense that our awareness shifts things.

But for a long time, it was considered far out energy work. If you still look it up on Wikipedia, there's all sorts of things about how it's a hoax, even though there's thousands, hundreds of thousands of practitioners all over the world, right? Also, the fact that everything's energy. We can argue about it, but when it comes down to science, like everything is energy, like everything.

Everything. From beings to other life, to the pen that I'm holding, everything has some form of energy to it. So I love that you started it so young. How did that happen?

So yeah, my mom was a physiotherapist, and so she was in the healthcare field as well. And so she took her first cranial sacral course from John Upledger at the Upledger Institute in West Palm Beach, Florida, when I was 10. And so from that point on, she would... She'd come home and...

She'd teach me what she learned, because I was a curious kid, and I was excited to work with it, and she had a clinic at home. And so after school, I would come, and I'd say, hello, and there'd be somebody I knew on the table, and she'd say, hey, Jules, can you come in and help me out? And so I was able to engage and play in that energy, because it made perfect sense, and it was normal, right? So I remember pulling on someone's feet and saying, yeah, mom, it's not at their feet, though.

It's at their kidneys. I'm just going to put my hands there. She's, okay, cool. So that was, like, for me, it was normalized.

That was, like, that was my reality. And so when you're 10 years old, and that's just what, you don't think anything of it. I didn't realize how weird, yeah, quote, unquote, weird it was to all the rest of the people until, you know, I decided to share it, and they're like, what are you talking about? That's weird.

I'm like, oh, really? Because this is, like, my everyday reality. It's very general. I mean, my mom, too.

So, yeah, which is so interesting. I know that I... Before we hit record, we talked about this, where both of us have been into energy for a really long time, and mine started also when I was 10. And when it started for me, it was my aunt who introduced me to it, but it was considered so weird, so woo, so out there, to where I would never dare tell people what me and my aunt were actually doing.

And the whole reason why I started it was because my sister, I know I don't talk about this a lot on the podcast, and I probably should, but she had committed suicide. It was a massive traumatic event that happened in my family, and she was only 14, I was 10, and it rocked us, obviously, to the core. Like, every single one of us were just completely blindsided. It was awful.

It was traumatic. It was just one of those, like, nightmare experiences. And when we were going through that, we sat into, and I say this with love, like, this is just what our experience was, but we were put into a therapist's office as an entire family. Which I think my dad also was.

He was not really welcoming of this therapist into our situation. And so we sat there, and we had an awful experience. I do not think it was the therapist's fault at all. But I came out of there, as a family we went, and I think we might have each met with her individually once or something.

We came out of there, and my aunt was like, hey, you can, I might be able to help you. And I had no idea what it was that she did, but I knew that I trusted her. And I knew that I loved her, and I knew that I didn't like how I was feeling in my body because this was awful. Like, I had just lost my sister, and I didn't know how to express all of the feelings that were going on, and everything was going on.

I started meeting with her, and I started meeting with her every single Friday at 10 o'clock, or not 10, what am I saying? Every single Friday, I would meet with her. I was 10 years old, and I kept doing it. And I kept doing it because I felt so much better every single time I would leave.

And I was like, okay, like, that feels good. And we would talk. To my five-year-old self, and we would heal relationships between me and my dad, and I didn't know how we were doing this, and then me and my mom, and then me and other people, and then she would test my muscles, and she would work with, yeah, the same cranial sacral stuff. And there was just so much going on.

All I knew is that I felt so much more at peace every single time I left, and then I started implementing it, like, into my life. And I kept that going for, like, years. I think I, her and I had this, like, standing appointment for five or something years, but it was not normalized. It was normalized.

My family was not doing it. My mom was not doing it. I didn't dare talk to my friends about it, because I felt like this would sound crazy town. So I love that for you, it was something that was just like, yeah, this is what we do at our house, and this feels good.

Well, yes, and I need to fully honor the fact that you sharing that story is so big, Amy. I know I'm not the only one. I know your listeners are probably like, oh, just as hit in the heart as I am with that share. Oh, thank you for that.

I appreciate it. Oh, yeah, yeah. I got, there's tears in my eyes. That, that feeling, you just emphasized how extremely powerful it is that there, we think there's only certain avenues in which to go to, and if those avenues don't work, then I guess there's something wrong with us, or no, that doesn't work.

I'm not going to try anything else again. But when these big things happen to us, whether we're kids or adults, big things happen to us. It's one big peak experience, and then what are you doing to integrate it into your reality? And it could be a really big, amazing experience, or it could be a really big traumatic experience, but if you never stir it into the mixture of who you are, then it can get frozen in time and space and get stuck and make you feel stuck, maybe not right then, but later on.

Yeah. And that you're so, like, it's so wonderful that you had somebody that you already trusted that you can trust. Yeah. And then to have that experience and say, oh my gosh, this feels better.

I don't even know what's happening. This feels better every time. So I need to keep leaving in. It's like, I don't know what this is, but now I'm still better and this has got to be doing something.

It does feel like it's doing something. So I just kept going. I just kept going, which I really am proud of my younger self for doing that because I do think that I was able to heal and release a lot of just a lot of those feelings that were trapped that I don't think that my family. was able to do because they didn't do that they just just dealt with that on their own as they could and tried to just push it away and it still comes up there's things that still come up years and years later because that pain is something that will always fold it was a really traumatic heart experience however I do feel like all of the work that I did then created the space for me to see wow okay I'm able to hold that differently than I think everyone else in my family and also I learned from a very young age the power of what it what working with energy and releasing emotion and leaning into emotion like all of that what that can do for you and listening to your body because our body our soul wants to talk to us right our soul will use our body to talk to us but we need to listen I gotta jump in on that one because that makes me excited yeah you sat up smiled yeah this is your jam let's go yeah I was like oh my gosh the body and how it speaks to us as a cranial psychotherapist like that's I specialize in pediatrics so I work with a lot of kids and adults families intergenerations sometimes grandparents parents kids grandkids it's so beautiful but that knowing that our body is the resonance chamber for our soul right we have all of the access to all of the wisdom we could possibly need and it's all inside of us it's the universe inside of us we don't need to go looking elsewhere even though we're just we're just we're just we're just we're just we're just we're just we're just we're told and we're trained and conditioned to oh there's something going on we should ask this person we should go see this person we should get this nerd whatever it is and sometimes it's important but most important is that you go inwards first and tune in to this vast resource library that you have and that is where it's all available and the challenge is that we weren't taught that we weren't taught how to translate what our body speaks and how it talks to us into something that we're not able to do and so I think that's a really important thing to that we can you know translate into our regular day-to-day life we're not taught the language of our body and that's the thing is kids and that's why kids are so amazing that's why I'm glad that you started to work with energy when you were a kid just like I did and that is that as a kid you can use your imagination and there's no limitation there's no judgment you can use sounds colors smells tastes like I always say like our thinking logical brain was to put things in categories and make sense of things but it's a very slow processor it's something like 40 bits of data and it's a very slow processor it's something like 40 bits of data and it's something like 40 bits of information per second which is a reasonable logical amount but our imagination our app being sensing experience that's 400 billions of bits of information per second wow it makes no logic our logic processor our brain I say it's like grabby claw it's just like super slow and it just grabs to assign meaning to things but it's super slow and so if we just let ourselves play like kids are apt to do with sounds colors smells tastes there's an imagery a texture a memory a future memory right it's oh all those things are available and it's try to make sense of them then amazing things can happen really quickly it doesn't have to take forever now which is incredible what about the person p I don't know how to listen to my body or I feel like something's going on what do I do it sounds like they're like okay Jules you're a pro but what about me when I want to get into this or I'm getting into this what do I do how do I yeah that's a great question I think it's a great question and the great news is is because your body is your resonance chamber for your soul it's the body is the physical part your soul is the energetic part so you are that combination between the soul and the body right so there's never a full disconnection there could be a trauma that makes you feel like you're disconnected from your body because it was safer to not be connected and that's not abnormal at all but no matter what if you are if you're experiencing some sort of physical trauma or you or even emotional trauma you can ask your body okay body and and do talk to it like you're talking to a beloved sister brother or mother father whatever that energy is it's friend um okay body I know that what's going on and I know that I don't but I know that something's going on or I know that I know that this is really challenging and I don't know what to do with it where is this holding in my body so it's just a really easy question is where is this experience what holding in my body or if you already have a sore knee or it's a sore belly putting your hand on that spot and going okay I am here I know you're trying to catch my attention you got it I'm here listening right so from that point on the body's not trying to fight to get your attention which is sometimes all it needs it wants you to do something and you're not getting it so instead of whispering it screams a little bit louder and the largest scream that a body can give you is pain or disease that's it right yeah yeah and so once you can put your hand there once you can bring your attention there as well as your touch and if you can't reach that part of your body imagine putting your hand there right but that opportunity to be there and say okay I'm listening and instead of waiting for it to be a word that makes sense or waiting for it to be a statement or a sensation or what I just said about it speaking in all of the multi multi-sensory smell taste sound color memory texture like if you ask a question and it answers in a color then that's where you pay attention to if it answers in a word sequence just listen to that word sequence ask more questions if you want but more than anything you being present with it and actually breathing into it and actually breathing into it and actually breathing into it and actually breathing into it touching it breathing into it and just asking for it to show you what it wants to show you can be the biggest game changer I just had a client this morning actually and she said there's every time my body has had to have a surgery like out of the blue surgery I know now that it was that was God for her it was God it could be source or the divine or whatever that is for you but that was God trying to tell me to slow down and I couldn't hear the whispers and I knew it certain times I didn't need to slow down but I didn't know how to do it and so God said okay let me just let me give you this this disease process so that you have to have a surgery and you'll be forced to slow down because you need to slow down she's the number of times that happened and now I'm now I can hear it so it's a slow translation period we just get we get more and more immersed and going oh that's not my body sabotaging me or trying to take me down that's my body as my best friend trying to show me something I gotta you know what I'm trying to show me something I gotta I'm gonna slow down and I'm gonna listen for the whispers so that I don't have to wait for it to scream yeah I love that you're also like this is my best friend and talking to your body like it is your best friend because we like to listen to our best friend and we like to help our best friend we like to make sure that they are okay and be able to help them in ways that they are not and it's no different here we can do the exact same thing with our body which is us which is also showing self-love care it breeds more self-trust you're more alignment with your soul there's so many great things that can come from just tuning in it's one of the easiest and hardest things to do because like I say when I step somebody into that degree of awareness say your body is not used to having your attention without some sort of judgment or expectation or criticism right because we have we've built that into our head talk to our body and so it really is about establishing a friendship dynamic and recognizing oh I was just down talking to my body or oh I was just telling my body it's not good enough or oh I was just judging my body for not being able to break down that food or not being able to move a certain way like these are things that we don't even realize we're doing and even possibly in me saying this you're able to hear this in your own experience of oh yeah I do talk like that to my body that inner voice is important yeah what is your take on mind versus soul heart whatever you want to call it I had to take apart what you just said mind versus because then it's like a competition it's a competition just a lot of people and then let me expand on this so I do a lot with making sure you're in alignment with your body mind soul right all of it is working together but our mind likes to take charge and in our mind also a lot comes from our subconscious mind a lot comes from our previous times whatever so our mind likes to take charge which what I have found can really take us away from tuning into our heart and so I just want to see what your take was on it and like how you how you work with that oh beautiful question yeah we've been trained and conditioned in our society to put priority over our head our mind that has to be logical it has to be scientific it has to be justified we have to be in that space of coherence in our head and we can say like throughout throughout time or the recent time you're not justified by saying oh it just feels right people what do you mean it feels right what's the proof what's the solid evidence and but my intuition says it feels right there's no solid evidence behind my intuition apart from the fact that's my truth that's the core of who I am and I know when it speaks truth I know it's truth because I know my own truth so it's it's tricky in that regard because our mind and the way that we're trained is that we're not just a little bit more of the same thing and we're the mind reigns supreme.

But in the grand scheme of things, and you look at the HeartMath Institute has all sorts of studies on this, that the heart actually receives the information long before the brain does. So our heart is the receiver transmitter, and then it goes out to the brain. And so we must remember that our brain is really good at doing what it does. But like I said, 40 bits of information per second, the heart would be the 400 billion.

So the heart has way more processing power, is way more intelligent, quote unquote, in the big grand scheme of things versus in the logical, let's put things in the tiny boxes and do things really slowly, like our brain does. But we've just been trained, that's most important. So in answer to your question, Amy, when you can tune into the body, and this actually happened with a client earlier today as well. Yeah.

When you can tune into the body, where we normally be the first to go, oh, thank you. We've got your full attention. Let's drop into this beautiful peace and serenity that comes with fully accepting this huge transition in our lives. But this person that was having lost their child, right?

This is big stuff. But she dropped into this beautiful space. And then the head went, no, it's not safe to do this. Nope.

We don't know. It's very apprehensive. Very protective, very defensive. So it's at that point you go, okay, you have our full attention mind.

What makes it not safe to let go and drop into what the body, what the heart, the soul wants us to drop into, right? So it's that beautiful space of not going, hey, brain, why aren't you letting this happen? This is obviously like what needs to happen. It's a, you know, you're an important part of the equation and you've been helping her entire system for so long.

What is it that you need? What is your biggest fear here so that we can talk about it? Because just like we talked about, like that big trauma that happened in your family, let's say that one of your family members, they just went, that was really intense. You know what?

I'm just going to contract that. I'm going to ball that up. I'm just going to make it really tight. I'm going to hide it back there because that's really uncomfortable and I don't want to look at it.

I don't want to feel it. Oh, that's better. And that, that, that can work for a while. But as you evolve, and as you grow, your soul evolves.

It wants to look at that. It wants to learn from that. It wants to grow thanks to that. And so it, it needs to protect for a little while, even if a little while is five minutes, a little while is like 50 years.

But when that time comes that it's okay, we can't hold onto this because we can't grow and step into our soul's evolution without looking at this. This is what we came here for, right? So it's the idea that life, it happens for you versus to you. We step out of the victim mentality.

We own the fact that we're here in this human experience to learn and grow. And that's when we, when we engage with all those pieces. But if you choose to, if you choose to keep it really tight and the mind wants to protect that, then it will. And it'll go down with the ship too.

If the mind never thinks it's safe, then it will, it'll hold onto that. But I've never yet met a being that I've worked with where the mind never thinks it's safe. And I've never yet met a being that I've decided where the mind said, okay, this is it. And we're going down with the ship.

And the body said, no, we're, we don't want to go down with the ship. We we're ready. And the mind was like, nope. It's always, if the body agrees to open up, the mind is just waiting for permission from the body.

Yeah. There are some bodies who decide, nope, we're going down with a ship. And I've had people, many people die. It's like this, that's not what's going, we're not able to evolve.

We don't want to evolve. This is not our time. And so there's no judgment or expectation on that. But if the body is ready to grow, the mind is just like the last defense protector going, it's not safe.

It's not safe. And if the body can have that engagement to be able to not convince, but to have the conversation, to be in that space where it's safe, then the mind goes, oh, thank goodness. I've been waiting for this break. Ah, and it's the deepest, most peaceful relaxation you've ever felt in your entire life.

Yeah. That makes sense though. Meeting your mind with love, essentially, right? You're meeting with your mind with love and compassion and also seeing it.

Guess what? We see you. Do you see me? I like you.

Trying to take care of us. And also look, there's another way. Exactly. Yeah.

I love that. And also I was totally in this space just yesterday. I think my mind was freaking out. And I was like, what is going on?

But now I know when my mind freaks out like that, I do know. So I went to the person that was freaking out. I was like, hey, this is what's going on. This is what my mind's telling me.

And this person showed up with love and was like, okay, this is why this isn't true. And this is how things are different and why you can trust me. I'm like, okay, okay. And then it was like later everything was down.

But as this happened, it really was. The first part of the morning was just the brain freak out, like seeking safety, right? Seeking safety of all the things. And then, okay, wait, hold up.

All right. I'm not working through this on my own. So I'm going to address the person and talk to them. And through that, that actually helped.

And then later it was totally fine. And my heart was back up a bit. So, okay, there it is. But look at that level of awareness that you had to say, this isn't actually reality.

This is my brain spinning a story. And wait a second, if I just let my brain spin a story, that's not going to be helpful in this relationship or this experience or whatever that is, right? To go, ah, okay, my brain's spinning a story. And that is not necessarily true or real as the story.

And that's the difference is that some people, and depending on what level of awareness you're on, you might still believe the story. But even just us, now saying that, it's like, oh, wait a second. Is it a story? If it's, am I watching it?

If I can watch it, then it's a story. If I can watch it, it's a story. Yeah. If I can watch it, if I can listen to it, if I can step back or listen to it, it's a story.

True. And also the other thing that's been something that I've had to like, I think, learn over and over is even though I've been doing energy work for a long time, right? We've all talked about this. It's been a long time and it's like still something that's continually going over and over.

But yeah, it just, it's never quite done, which is also a beautiful thing. If we're always evolving, we're always growing. But your mind also wants to believe the past. Oh, nope.

This is what happened in the past. That means it's going to happen again. That actually doesn't mean that. Your mind's just drawing up some evidence to keep you safe.

So what do you want to do with the evidence that it's drawing up? How do you want to react? And I think that love, opening up your heart, is what always sells best. Tuning into the soul.

What were you going to say? I was going to say, as you said that, I love what you said earlier about how the mind is always seeking safety, right? It seeks safety and fear. I always love this statement, the acronym fear, false evidence appearing real.

Oh yeah. False evidence appearing real. And like you said, if fear is on one side, then what's on the other side? If fear is on the other side, then what's on the other side?

Faith, trust, love, right? They're both there. We're not trying to get rid of them. Like you said, like I said, they are there to defend you, to protect you.

Like, fear is there trying to keep you safe. So you don't want to get rid of that, right? But you do want to know when it's got the megaphone and it's screaming and there's no reason for it to scream, right? It's time to take the megaphone away from fear and actually lean into love and trust and the faith and the love piece.

So you said there about your heart. So when you notice that fear, you turn up the volume on your heart. If they're the two ends of the same pole, then you're just bringing that one to the forefront, not completely just acknowledging the other one. You're saying, I hear you fear, and you're trying to keep me safe.

But this is a time when my heart needs to stay open. And I, you know what, I feel right trusting this person. I feel right trusting this experience or this opportunity. So please come with me and let me know if you got the megaphone if you need it, to call me out again, and I'll hear you out.

We're doing this together as a team versus feeling like it's always working against you. Yeah, I love this. So we talked a little bit about like leadership. So let's just shift gears slightly, like how do we apply this to become that, that person, that leader in our lives, whether we are a mom, or whether we are an entrepreneur, whatever it is, how do we utilize these like, amazing resources to step into that more powerful version of us?

Yes, I was actually having this conversation with a beautiful collaborator of mine. And we talked about how it's really important to have a role model in our lives that embodies that which we are wanting to become. Right? It doesn't mean obviously exactly, you don't want to be exactly that person.

But as a young girl, for me, it was always so powerful. more powerful to see amazing female athletes who were completely themselves, and they didn't worry if they had armpit hair or that they that other people judge them for their muscles because they were proud and happy their muscles and they were like, strong female role models. I was like, I love that. I just absolutely loved that.

For me. I was a snowboarder and skateboarder. So like seeing actually women who were in usually male driven sports, who are really like, playful and and they're still feminine but they're powerful and I was like oh my gosh yes I would I want to be that I don't so we all yeah we all meet these people in our lives did you have somebody in your life Amy that you like that you looked up to that you would love to I think I always have had someone that I've looked up to even now I have this amazing woman that I look up to a few of them but then I was a dancer and grew up as a dancer so it was my dance instructor but she was it seemed like she was so developed in so many ways not just through her dancing she looks like she's an amazing mom she held a career there was a lot to her that I looked up to and also my aunt I talked about my aunt my aunt was just this incredible powerful person and it didn't matter what time you dropped in on her when you called like anything she was 100% present for whoever was in front of her and I always loved that and felt so so seen and even still knowing how to be a dancer and how to be a dancer and how to be a dancer and how to be a dancer and how to be a dancer and how to be a dancer and how she would always help me show up that way and feel that way like how can I do that for others like how can I bring that in and be that type of person for others that's exactly the answer to your question is that we embody that for others right so remembering there's always others looking up to you whether you're the CEO of a company or you're a mother of three right there are people who look up to you as their superhero in whatever way that is and so that remembering that we are leaders because sometimes that's there oh I'm not a leader I've had people say I'm not a leader it's actually if you are willing and wanting to step into the capacity that you have available to you as a spirit having a human experience with so much invincibility to you then you're a leader because if you're willing and wanting to step into that then you are you're able to be a leader and you're able to be a leader and you're give yourself that opportunity to distill the gold that's inside of you. And so really the difference between somebody who thinks of themselves as a leader and somebody who doesn't think of themselves as a leader is that they don't think that they, that there's anything special about them, that they don't feel like, feel like there's, they feel broken.

They don't feel full. They feel like maybe they're not comfortable in their body. Ah, I don't want to step into that. Where in reality, whether you like it or not, you are a leader, someone, somebody is seeing you as a leader in your field, a leader in your work, a leader in your house, whatever that is.

If you own that, if you tap into that inner resource and your inner truth and your goal, then you will embody that knowing and trust in yourselves that radiates. People can feel it, right? We all know people that we like come into contact with and we're like, I don't even know. I know what it is about that person.

I've never even laid eyes on them before, but I want more. I want to be more like that. Yeah. So that, that knowing that as a leader and as I work with more and more leaders in all sorts of fields and capacities, there's a point where we get to going, okay, am I here just to, just to survive or am I here to thrive or live my destiny?

And there's a part that's, ah, of course I want to thrive and live my destiny, but I have no idea how to do that. That's how committed are you to discovering that? And I say that, and I do invite everybody who's listening right now to feel that in your body, how committed are you to stepping into exploring what you're truly capable of? And there's no right or wrong to that, but just feel it in your body and notice where you feel that in your body.

And it might be like, hell yes, like my whole body like radiates, or it might be like a, oh my God, that scares the crap out of me. And I got this feeling in my belly and my feet. It's just notice that. And remember, that's your body telling you that's where you can start noticing.

Yeah. So good. You've, we've talked about so many different things and just all been so good. I don't know.

I've loved our conversation. Oh, what'd you say? Full of gems there have been. Yeah.

Like everything's a gem. Yeah. And so applicable and easy to just start doing everything that I think that we've hit on. So as we wrap up, what is one more nugget that you would leave with our audience?

I'm just going to let this flow through. I have no idea what's going to come, which I love. I love it when that happens. The most powerful, profound thing.

Things we can do are the most simple and they're so simple that we think they're not important. Yeah. And so when it comes to, oh, I don't know what to do or how do I even start? It's let's start with the simple basics.

If, if we're starting kindergarten, same basics that they start with. And that is to just stop, right? When you slow down and still yourself and just stop, and you might stop and hear, like you were talking about, Amy, you might hear the stories playing out in your head, right? And that's completely fine.

So just, just be there to listen to the stories and remember if you're listening to them, then they're stories. They're not actually true. They're actually not happening right now. Yeah.

They're telling you something that happened in the past or something you're afraid is happening in the future or they're planning or they go onto a list or something. But if you actually let yourself stop and go, ah, what if I just even stop the stories? Yeah. And just took a couple of breaths and I stopped the stories and I just let myself be present.

So there's the stop and then kindergarten basics, stop, look, and listen. Basics. So stop and be present. Look at what's coming up.

So look at the stories. Is there some sort of pattern to the story that's coming up? Are you focused on something? What is it you're looking at?

And it could be an inward look. It could be an outward look. But that, fool. If you were to make eye contact outwardly or touch, touch it with your sight, with your inner sight, what is it that's wanting to be seen right now?

So stop, look, and then listen, right? So this could be in most potent, this inner dialogue, right? Listen to what it is that your body is trying to tell you. So now you know your mind, right?

You probably know it has a certain different voice than your body. What is your body trying to tell you? And you could just go through this. Oh, what's my mind trying to tell me?

Okay, hear that line. What's my heart trying to tell me? Okay, hear that heart. What's my gut trying to tell me?

Oh, I hear that gut. And is there some other part of your body? Oh, okay. What about you and me?

What are you trying to tell me? So just listening, right? So this whole thing could take maybe five minutes, or it could take 15 minutes, or it could take one minute. Just that opportunity to go, oh, I have that tool, but I don't normally use it to look back on myself.

And if you want to be an amazing leader for future generations, if you want to raise future leaders, then this is an amazing, really simple toolbox to use on yourself so that you are resonating your truths and you're magnetizing those around you to find and want to find their own truth because they can feel it. Oh, that's so powerful. I'm so glad I asked that question. So thank you for asking.

And so easy to do, which is just up to us to do it. We actually have to take the action to do it, but I like the stop, listen, learn. Look and listen. I said it even wrong.

Anyway, yeah, you correct me. Thank you. Okay. So Jules, you have a few different things, which we'll have all of this in the show notes, but you have a book that we have not talked about.

Yeah, it's applicable actually, because the, the book is called Raise Future Leaders, Three Simple Steps to Transformational Parenting. And it's, I made it fun because I'm working with kids all the time. I'm all about play. So I drew all the pictures for it and made sure that it was an easy read if you're getting a paperback version.

I recommend if you, if you want to fully consolidate it, it works best if you have the written version. And I just, I think I, it will be included in the show notes because I sent it to you. There is a audio book. Where I'm reading the audio book.

So if my voice appeals to you, then that would be something that you can easily like, just let it digest through your ears while you're reading the book or on your own. If you're an audio book listener, I love to listen to audio books. I also wrote the parenting pocket guide. So instead of it being all wordy, this one is just more, just the pictures with the reminders.

So if you've read the book, then it, it will remind you of all of the potent steps. And if you haven't, I've had people say that they bought it. I've had people say that they bought it for themselves. And then they bought the pocket guide for their husband, because it was easier to understand and more likely to read it.

I'll read that stuff, but you at least need to know these Clifton's version. I like it. All of that in the show notes, guys, if you can't, I'm sure you felt her energy. Like she just has this, this like calm grounding magnetic energy, which is what I like caught the first time we met.

I was like, Oh my gosh, I said that hot. I'm like, you're so grounding. I just love, your energy. Anyway, she's beautiful person inside now, obviously.

And if you want more of her, you can check out all of the show notes and the links are down below. So Jules, thank you so much for being on our podcast. You have shared so much with our audience and I'm sure that they have loved it as well. So thank you.

Thank you, Amy. And before I forget, there is a Facebook group for anybody who's really called to it. It's called the coming home to wholeness sisterhood. So you can find it on Facebook and it's really full of people who are really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, wanting to build and develop their intuitive knowledge connection to their own body and wanting to step in.

And so that's why I work with people all over, all over the world, virtually doing attention alchemy sessions, as well as coaching, coaching mentorship programs for those who are really like, Ooh, this is for me or my body screamed out. Yes. Feel free to reach out. And I'm just so happy you had me here.

Anyway, this is such a wonderful introduction to your beautiful audience. So thank you everyone. Thank you. I'm so honored to have you here.

And that will also be in the show notes. So you guys can click on that and find that as well. Okay. Thank you so much.

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