How to Own Your Finances As A Single Mom

It may be easy for you, but it is very difficult for someone else, right? And it's for us to start valuing ourselves more, valuing, take great value on some of the skills that you have, because they make a difference, right? Because you can serve others in any capacity. And I encourage every woman to explore that, to take on that and said, you know what, I'm going to explore this a little bit, you know, I mean, why not?

Welcome to the Thrive Her podcast. I'm your host, Amy Sanders. I'm a fitness and wellness pro, mom, stepmom, second wife, and master certified life coach. I'm here to help you manage your mind so you can uncover the most potent version of yourself and create the thriving life you love.

Welcome back, everyone. If you are tuning in, you are noticing, and you've been tuning in for a while, you are noticing that. The intro is different. We now are the Thrive Her podcast.

I am so excited because it's something I've wanted to do for a long time. And finally, I'm like, why don't I just do it? So we've only had a couple episodes so far where we are our new brand, but we still talk about all the same things as well as teaching you how to become an even more powerful version of yourself and learning how to thrive. That is what I am so passionate about teaching everyone is that.

You are in control of your story in your life, whether you believe it or not. So I bring on the most amazing women. And today I have a special guest. I'm so excited to bring Slendy Noel with us.

She has an awesome story. And before I get into her story, I want to tell you a little bit about what we are going to talk about. And it actually might trigger some of you right out of the gate. And that is okay.

We are going to talk about how to own your. Finances, even if your story is not ideal, even if you are a single mother, even if you don't believe that you're worthy of it, we're going to talk about how you can own your finances and why it's so important. So Slendy, not to be confused with Slendy. That is not her name.

Slendy. It's like very like rich. I love your name. She was born and raised until the age of 15 in Haiti.

She came to America. She now. Has two beautiful children. She's been through divorce.

And she's been through all kinds of life experiences that have led her into becoming a divorced mom's empowerment coach. So she teaches basically single moms, how to thrive after going through something hard, like divorce. And so can you give us a little bit more about your background and your story as we start diving into this juicy topic? Absolutely.

Thank you so much, Amy, for having me. I'm just so delighted to be here. So, of course, like you mentioned, my name is Slendy Noel. My you know, my background is a little bit interesting because I was born and raised in Haiti and I lived in Haiti for most of my life, really, for 15 years of my life.

I lived there. My mother was 29 years old when she moved Haiti to move to the States. She was pregnant with her fifth child, but she knew things weren't was just not going to get better because it was right after. There was an embargo placed in Haiti in the late eighties.

And because there was you know, they had gotten rid of a dictatorship. So she knew at that point she needed to move, even though she was young, even though she was pregnant, she didn't speak the language. She didn't even have a high school degree, but she moved to the 29th and pregnant with your fifth child. That is a lot.

Yes. And she left us behind at the time. You know, it was 1989. I was six years old and my brother, my sister was five.

My brother. I was four. The other one was three. So I basically, you know, to tell the truth, I basically took charge and take care of the younger ones because my dad was in and out like it was just so, you know, you learn to go up very, very fast.

And when my mother finally managed to get us all to the States, you know, at the time I was 15 years old, I was very ambitious. I always wanted to go to college, you know, because the moment I moved to the States, I was like, wow, there's great opportunities here and I'm just going to take advantage of it. And of course I went to college and studied biology focused on, I double majored in biology and political science, and I worked in the biology field for years. Like for seriously, I even went back to school and did my master's in the field and I worked as an immunochemist for longer for a very long time, in fact, but I've always known that I wanted to do something different.

Right. And when I was married, I got married right after college. And when I was married, I thought, okay. Now I'm married, you know, I don't have any more choices.

Right. So that's what I thought. And I remember my ex-husband say, of course you do, you know, it's your life. If you want to go back to school, if you want to do something different, you should.

And I really appreciated that because when he said that, it kind of put that in me, making me believe that, okay, then maybe I can do whatever I want to do. Right. Maybe even though I was married, we were already getting ready. To have our first child.

I was young at the time, but our first home, but he was like, I understand because I was the, mostly the main breadwinner. And he was like, I know that you are, but at the same time, I want to do something that you love and you enjoy. And 10 years later, we got divorced. I felt devastated.

I'll tell you, Amy, I really believe I really thought that was the end for me because at the time I had a six year old and a new baby. Right. So, and I was 30 years old. Right.

So, and I was 30 years old. Right. It was devastating for me. I didn't think that I was going to be able to pick myself back up.

I really believed that, you know, I'll have to get stuck in my field. Although I loved it to tell you the truth, it provided a very good life for me and my children. You know, when you work in the medical field, you do pretty well for yourself. However, I've always known that God had called me to do something different.

He has created me to do something different. And after having gone to my divorce. And I had to go to therapy. You know, and I had to do a lot of self reflection and I realized that this is, you know, I want to do something that I love and enjoy, and I want to make a difference.

But when I was going to my divorce, no one was around to help my family because no one could understand it. You see, when you go to a divorce, people sometimes become afraid, like if you have married friends, they start thinking, oh, gee, I don't want that to happen to me. So people start migrating, right? The relationship.

relationships you have start changing. And for me, it was very hard, not only because people couldn't understand what I was going through, but also because I wouldn't talk about it. I just felt like I didn't want to be a burden to anyone else. You know what I mean?

Like, because I felt it's my life. I need to figure out what I need to do. And after having gone through that on my own, I was just like, no, there must be another way. There must be another way to help.

And I knew the minute I came out of that, I was going to give back by doing something to help women who are going through a divorce or we're going to wake up and they feel like they're all alone. And there's no one there to support and help. And that's how I started my, you know, my business. Yeah.

So amazing. And I know that a lot of women that are listening to this are like, oh my gosh, who had been through that? I'm talking too fast. I like to do that.

Who've been through that. And they don't even know where to turn. I remember when I was going through mine, it was the same thing where we had all these like married couple friends that now like, how do I even hang out with them? And they don't know how to talk to me because they might not even want to hear what's going on.

They don't know how to approach it because they also were friends with him and they just, it's like tricky. And then you're not single yet. You don't know this whole single life. It's just like you're in this in-between world.

That's so uncomfortable. But also I also remember feeling so helpless. Like, I don't know where to even go now. Like what, what am I even worth?

And truth one told me I was damaged goods. I would never be married again because I'm damaged goods. And this was my new life. And I remember, I don't remember.

I remember thinking this person was a total liar and that was not true, but also cut deep. And I know that I'm not the only one, you know, we go through this and we're just like, okay, all right. What, what, what do we do now? So what you're doing, the work you're doing is so important and I'm so happy to have you here.

So let's talk about it. Yes. I mean, you know, the minute that, you know, it took me, I've been divorced now for eight years. It took me years to get to a point where I could talk about my divorce or, and without having to cry or without feeling like going back into the, you know, depression mode.

Right. It took me almost four years to finally come to a position where I was like, okay, I'm doing great. I'm thriving. I'm doing what I love.

And once I started feeling great about myself and I love, I'm a huge advocate for therapy. I think everyone should at any point in your life, you need to like, seriously, because many of us have some suffered some form of trauma, maybe from our childhood or youth, whatever we suffer from different things. And when we, you know, pile up different things on a different life situation, such as divorce, it's like, you feel sometimes, you know, that like you just mentioned that I'm not good. I'm damaged.

Good. Like I'm some kind of a leftover, you know what I mean? Yeah. Like you're not worthy.

No one wants me anymore. I went through divorce. I have the big D on my forehead, which is also funny because so many people go through it yet. We still judge ourselves and there's people who judge each other for going through divorce.

So they can figure it out. There must be something wrong with them. There must be something wrong with me. Yes.

I mean, and oftentimes you'll hear people say, oh, well, you know, you should have stuck it out. Right. I come from a culture where women don't get divorced. We don't get divorced.

We get married. We stayed married for life. It doesn't matter if the person is being unfaithful to you. It doesn't matter if you're being abused because that's part of my culture is that you stick with that.

Right. And to adding on to that, I'm also a Christian. So being in the Christian faith, you know, you don't get divorced. Right.

Because we've been taught that God hates divorce. So when you, when you have all of this going on and then you haven't gone to a divorce, sometimes you feel like this is the end for me. So it's pretty clear that I'm, I'm, I'm not good anymore. And I really, and my goal really is to help women understand that that is not your identity.

Right. Divorce is not your identity, identity, being a divorced mom, or, you know, having gone through it doesn't mean that you are no longer who you were created to be. Right. Because God called us to be something greater, something better, something, you know, that's magnificent.

And nothing can ever take that away. And my goal is to help women understand that because when you go into a divorce, you feel like no one's going to want me anyway, and no one wants to talk about it, but being able to open up a bit and get help makes a huge difference. And I want women to understand that it's okay to say I'm hurting. It's okay to say I need help.

It's okay to say, okay, I don't know how to do this. How can, you know, what can I do to get to where I need to be? And that is very important. So when I was actually, you know, creating my, my business, my goal really was to help women to divorce mothers, to understand that you've never lost your value.

It's not, you are still a woman, no matter what, being a mother, being a divorced, you know, having gone through whatever you're going through, doesn't make you less of a woman. You are still, a human being, and you are still valuable. And that is very, very important for women to understand. Mic drop.

We're done. Podcast over. No, really though, everything you said is so valid. And it's true.

We are born worthy, but it's all the thoughts in our heads that get us all tripped up of what our worth is, what we're capable of and all of the things. And as we're divorced, I know that, so I live in Utah, Utah a lot. It's very old school. And so I know that every state is a little bit different, but here, I mean, it's just very old school.

So women, women's rights, men's rights, divorced rights. It's like, it never progressed since like 1950. So the women get the, which is a lot of times good for the woman because she gets the children, but also a lot of women, not everyone. So people who are like, this isn't me, just let go of that.

But a lot of women still hold, hold on to the fact that they are just, which I hate the word, just stay at home moms. And that's what their worth is. I'm just a stay at home mom. I hate that sentence because I'm like, first of all, if that's what you are, it's an amazing calling and embrace it.

But they also think that they're not worthy to go out and create money. They're not worthy to go out and even explore what their interests are. And there's women who want that, you know, they like see other women doing that. And they're not worthy to go out and create money.

And they're not worthy to do that. And they're like, how do I do that? But the man is the one that's supposed to make the money. So in Utah, it actually is a really broken system in the sense that it keeps.

So the man ends up paying the woman quite a bit through alimony and child support. It's the woman. What's pretty normal is that the woman has the kids. Most of the time, the man's more of like a visitor in the child's life.

So the man will see his children maybe on a Wednesday night for a few hours and then every other weekend. So it's there. And then the woman, because she is getting paid, she can stay with him. And then the man goes, I'm going to hire a new woman.

So she's like, I'm not going to hire a new woman. So she's like, I'm going to hire a new woman. So she's like, I'm getting some money from him and I'm not worthy or I'm not enough, or I don't know how to go out and do more. Yes.

So I know that this can happen in other places too, but it is very prevalent here. And so I know that we're also going to start talking about that, like how we can take our own power back and whether or not like a lot of women, when they go through divorce, they do have to start figuring out how to make ends meet that if they're getting child's porn alimony, that can be great, but sometimes it's not enough. And so in Utah, it holds a lot of women almost hostage to where they are barely surviving because the money that comes in, but they still don't feel like they're worthy of showing what they're worth. Like when you're saying you are worthy, you can have whatever you want.

You can be whatever you want, no matter what your circumstances, no matter what has happened in your past, you get to call the shots and have everything. So let's, let's talk a little bit about that. But yeah, I had to explain Utah locks. It's a little bit different than I know a lot of other places, but it's still, I know relates to a lot of people in other places.

Absolutely. Oh, I love the way you just said that. Yes. Even if you are receiving alimony, even if you're receiving child support, you still want to be able to do something that you love.

Here's the thing though, Amy, I truly believe every single one of us were created for a purpose. The goal is to figure out what that purpose is. First and foremost, it doesn't, you know, of course there are a lot of mothers who are called to be stay at home moms, and that's a beautiful thing. That is a big job.

That is not for anybody. A lot of us can do it. So for me, I admire any woman who knows that is their passion. That is their purpose.

That is what they're created to do. However, we as human beings, oftentimes we have more than one talent. We have more than one thing that we can do. And our purpose of being here is to serve others.

First and foremost, we have to realize that we have to change our mindset, right? Because if we have, if we take on a certain identity, if we feel that this is all that I can do, then this is all you're going to do. However, if you start believing, wait a minute, you know, I have interest in this, right? Maybe I want to become a nurse.

Maybe, you know, I want to cut hair. Maybe, you know, whatever that, maybe I want to write a book, whatever interest that you may have, start exploring that. And I want women to always understand, even if you are a single mom, you still have certain parts of you. And that's one of the reasons why when I work with my clients, I help them to understand, get help, right?

Because it takes a whole village to raise children. Don't do it on your own. It takes a whole village to raise children. Don't do it on your own.

And I want you to really figure out what path to take is to always make sure that you have the support that you need, especially if you buy yourself, right? So the minute you start understanding that you were created for something higher, then it gives you, it frees you up to start exploring, you know, what are your skills? Sometimes we may not even, we may have certain skills and we don't even think they're, they're worth anything, right? Like we don't even think we're used to them, right?

We're like, oh, it's no big deal. It's just one of those things. And we don't even think they're worth anything, right? Exactly.

It may be easy for you, but it is very difficult for someone else, right? And it's for us to start valuing ourselves more, valuing, take great value on some of the skills that you have because they make a difference, right? Because you can serve others in any capacity. And I encourage every woman to explore that, to take on that and said, you know what?

I'm going to explore this a little bit, you know? I mean, why not? Yes. There's going to be a lot of obstacles, especially if you're a single parent, there's going to be a lot of things that you're going to feel like, okay, I can't do this.

Like it's too hard. It's too much. Yes. And it's going to be hard.

When I first started my business, I had, of course, as a single mother, I do not receive alimony from my ex-husband. Like I said earlier, you know, um, I was the main provider. He worked, he provide, but not as much as I did. So in order for me to even maintain a certain lifestyle for me and my children, you know, I actually, for the longest time, I was too afraid to leave my job.

I was terrified because I said, okay, I have one income coming into the house. If I don't make any money, we can't live. My mortgage can't be paid. My car notes can't be paid.

So what I did is I set up a plan for myself. I was like, okay, you know what? I need to write down a vision. You see, the good word says without a vision, the people perish.

So you have to write down a vision. And I have a vision for what you want for yourself and what you want for your life and not only for you, but also for your children. Right? So that's one of the reasons why I encourage women.

And when you do, when you're making certain decisions to think ahead, like to think of the long-term, not only for today, but to think for the next five, 10 years. And for me, when I started out, I had to write down first what I wanted to do and how I wanted to serve and how I wanted to help others. And once I started doing that, I was like, okay, I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it.

And once I started doing that, I started by having a vision board for myself. And the minute I started doing that, certain things starts clicking, you know, it's kind of like the image starts to look a little bit clearer. Then I said, okay, I can sacrifice and certain aspects of my life because I love to travel and I love my children. So I started by cutting back on that and save a little bit more, a little bit more until I was able to do it.

And then I started to have a year of my salary saved. And once I did that, I was like, okay, if I can accomplish that goal, I can accomplish anything. So I was able to do that. I was like, that's that.

You know what? I'm walking away from that position because I loved it. And I did it for 14 years. Absolutely.

I made a difference in the patient's lives, but I knew I was called for something different. And it takes a lot of courage. It does. And courage.

Courage is not an emotion that feels good. It's an amazing emotion and it helps you do big things, but it doesn't feel good. So a lot of people will avoid that too. Like it takes a lot of courage, but you have to move through the courage.

I also love that you had a plan. Let's talk about that for a minute. So you wanted something different. You knew you were called for more.

You had an amazing job. That would be a scary thing to walk away from when you're a single mom. So you know how to make ends meet. And this job shows you how to do that.

Okay. If I have this job, then I make ends meet, but then moving into something new, building a business. So yeah, you made a plan. Can we just like applaud that and say, yeah, guess what?

We can all make a plan. It doesn't mean that it's going to happen tomorrow. It took her a year. Okay.

So I saved up a year. Oh, I don't know if it took you a year, but you saved a year's worth. Yes. You saved a year's worth, cut back on some things you loved in order to achieve that goal.

And then from there, you were able to start this business. That's right. And here's the thing Amy. The fact is we can, until, unless you have a goal, you can't hit a target.

You can't see, right? No. Yes. The minute you can see it, like the minute, if you believe it, I truly believe if we have something put in our heart, it's there for a reason.

I truly believe that if there's something, if any of the ladies who are listening, if there's something that's brewing in you and you feel like I can do this, I can do this. Then that means that you have the ability. There are people who are doing it, who have less ability than you do, but they take that leap, right? They take that, they build themselves up.

They set up that plan for themselves and they took that leap of faith. And sometimes that's what we have to do. Because for me, when I started planning it out, I didn't think I could do it. I really didn't because I'll tell you, Amy, it was very terrifying.

And I look at my children. I said, my goodness, they deserve the best. However, I also keep on thinking, I don't see them the way that they are because right now my son is 14 and my daughter is nine years old. I don't see them as the little kid that they are today.

I keep on seeing them as when they're older, you know, in college and, and, you know, the type of example that I want to set for them, right? I want them to know that whatever you want, you can go after it and you can achieve it. Right. And when I decide to do, you know, when I decide to do something, I'm going to follow through.

And that is what we want our children, right? And not only that, we also have to remember, there are going to be times where you're going to feel like you're going to, you're going to give up. Like, this is hard. I can't do it.

You know what I mean? Like, especially when in the beginning, you know, the first year or so when you start doing it and you don't, you realize that, okay, maybe I'm not attracting as many clients as I want to, or maybe I'm not making an impact as I much, as much as I want to, but it's to keep going. It's the consistency, just keep going. You see, because eventually things will get a little bit easier because you're learning more skills and the more skills that you have, the better you become.

So it's really having that faith and believing that I got this, I can do this. I can do this. Don't compare where your start point is to someone else's, what you're perceiving as their finish line. Like that.

You just have to move forward. I love what you're saying. Like, okay, if you have that burning desire in your heart, then you just have to do it. You don't have to have the answer right now, but everything is figureoutable.

Either you can figure it out or you can talk to someone who can, but everything is figureoutable. You just have to take the steps and move towards that goal, whatever it is, whatever it is. I love that. You said anything can be figured out.

And if you don't have it, then seek the help. And that is the goal, because I'll tell you, I've attended so many seminars and I have a coach, a personal coach. And because he's the thing I'm, you know, we have to be willing to pay for certain resources to pay because I tell people that all the time, it doesn't hurt. Why, you know, if I can actually, you know, get a mentor, someone who has been, who's been, who knows what to do and they can help me do it in half the time.

Yes, I am going to do it. It's so worth it. Yes. I learned that lesson, like the hardest way possible because I'm so stubborn.

I like to do everything on my own. I like to prove that I can, but it slowed me way down in my, my entrepreneur entrepreneurship journey. And now I look at it. I'm like, guys, if you can find someone else who, is already where you want to be and then talk to them.

And a lot of times they will give you information for free. Other times you do need to pay for it, but ask people love to help. People love to talk about their successes. So just ask if you need to hire the help, the coach or whatever, then go do it so that you can get there faster.

It makes total sense. And yeah, we're talking coach language because we're both coaches, but that goes for anything. You know, what is it that you want to do? If you're a single mom right now, and you're listening to this now, I've always wanted to go back to school.

Cause I really want to be a nurse. You still can. It doesn't even matter if you're 85, you actually still can. Yes.

That's right. Even if it takes you five years, 10 years, 20 years. I love what you said earlier, Amy, you said, you know, don't compare because the minute you start comparing yourself to someone else or their progress or whatever that they're doing, you lose. Because the thing is, it's not about them.

It's about, what you need to do. Pay attention to your own progress because today where you are today is not where you were yesterday. You making progress, just pay attention and celebrate the little progresses that you make, right? Celebrate along the way.

Don't wait till the end of that. You know, when you get to that destination, because when we celebrate the little things that we do, it boosts you up. It boosts up your self-esteem and it helps you and gets you excited to move on to the next task. And that's the goal is believing in yourself.

And that's the goal. I can do it. I mean, there's always a blueprint. There's always someone who's done it before you talk to someone else, get that mentorship, you know, and, and surprisingly, like you just said, there's a lot of people, they're more than happy to tell you how they got to where they are.

And I read a lot and I will encourage every mom, like every mother, like every single woman, please read as much as you can, as much as you can, because a lot of those informations that you're going to be, you're going to see someone has already done it. And I'm like, written about it. And that's, that's the blueprint there, you know, continued education. The brain wants to keep growing.

It wants to keep growing. It wants to thrive, but we're the ones that trip ourselves up. That's right. You're worthy.

You're worthy and capable of anything and everything that you want. So we've talked about a lot of things. She is living proof that she, she totally switched her career as she's a single mom. Yes.

Like she just did it. And now you are full-time. Yes. Divorce mom, empowerment coach.

And it's working. Let me tell you, you know, when I first decided to do this full-time, I sat my children down and I talked to them. I don't know if they really understood what I was trying to say, because at the time my daughter was six years old. Now she's nine.

Right. And so I sat them down and I got their input and I asked them, you know, mommy really wants to do this full-time because I was building this business part-time, like really working full-time overnight, you know, in the lab, come home, take my, you know, get my kids ready, make breakfast, bring them to school, you know, go to the gym, go to bed for two, three hours. It is not for the fainted heart. It's still squeezing a few, you know, of my clients.

So when I decided to take on that, that, you know, to do this full-time, I talked to my kids and I told them, this is what I'm going to do. And I'm going to be investing in this and that. And, you know, and I started investing in multifamily to earn some money. I saved money.

And I said, when, when I took that leap, I was like, okay, I can financially take it, you see, and focus on building this business for the next year or two and see where it takes me. But it, but you, you know, you have to first have that plan. You have to work on that plan and, and get people who actually very supportive of you, you know, because a lot of us, sometimes have a lot of negative people around us. Sometimes it's best to just keep certain things to yourself and figure out which one of your friends, you know, who is the closest to you that you can trust and who can help support you to encourage you in times when you don't want to do it, when you want to give up, who can push you forward and help you to believe that, yeah, you can do this.

You have the skills. Let's go. And let's do this. That's important.

A hundred percent. Call on and reach out to the people that are going to boost you up and be. In your corner and let go of the people who aren't now with that said, I say that with love, you can still keep them at an arm's length. You can still talk to them if you want to, but make sure that you are continuously letting people into your circle who have your back.

That's right. They have your back and who believe in you because they are going to help you get to your goals faster too, because that little boost of positivity is exactly what you need when you're venturing and embarking on this new, new journey. So that's what we want for all of you is to show you that you have the power to thrive in your own life. You have the power to become the most potent, amazing version of yourself and nobody can do it for you.

You have to do it for yourself. We're here to help, but you have to make that decision. Okay. So if there was one thing, one little nugget of wisdom that you want to leave with our audience today, what would it be?

Ooh, my God. Just put her on the spot. You know what? Don't leave your life wounded because you see all of us have a story.

All of us, I've had a lot of pain, a lot of hurt, betrayed. We've gone through a lot, you know, and that's not to underestimate what you've been through. It's just to tell you that don't take that on as an identity. Don't live your life like you are wounded.

Believe that you are more capable than you, even you believe that you are. You are. Way more capable than that. So therefore, if you have that desire, go forward.

Do not let your past, do not let anything, any past decisions, any past mistake to hold you up. Don't leave your life wounded. You deserve what, whatever you seek, you deserve it. So go after it.

Oh, I love that. Yes. Yes to all of that. Thank you so much for being on the podcast today.

I really appreciate it. Also, we have her, her information in the show notes. So if you guys are needing her services, then you know where to find her. She is an amazing person as you can just feel her love.

Like it's like, just like oozing through the speakers. So that's the biggest heart ever. So yeah, thank you so much for being on the podcast. And you also have your Amazon guide that we can also throw on there, right?

So she has a guide that it's the girlfriend guide breakup, divorce, and divorce. And she has a guide that it's the girlfriend guide, breakup, divorce, divorce. Do you want to tell them a little bit about that really quick? It'll also be below.

Oh, yes. It's, you know, that, that book, I, I wrote it four years ago and published it. It was really to help, you know, newly divorced mothers figure out the 12 steps that they need to take to figure the things that they need to fit. We know, I talked about, you know, taking care of your finances, taking, you know, every day, step-by-step and focus on your emotional and spiritual healing.

So that book is really based, you know, like, that's exactly what it's about. And of course I have a second book that's coming up and it's called, you know, Oh my goodness, life looks different now. So it will be published at the end of this year. So I'm looking forward to that one as well.

Well, thank you so much. You're such a beautiful person. I love all the people that I meet and get to rub shoulders with. Cause you guys lift my day for the rest of the day.

I was like, Oh, every time I record a podcast with an amazing soul, I'm like, yep, that just made my day. So thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you for having me.

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